tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post3987614799680502305..comments2023-10-03T18:30:42.773-05:00Comments on Meta Watershed: WOMEN'S PERIODICALS FROM 1968 TO PRESENTMaggie Jochildhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07577090500862823864noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-2895850469045863622016-03-04T15:59:38.035-06:002016-03-04T15:59:38.035-06:00Thanks for this incredible list. I am especially g...Thanks for this incredible list. I am especially grateful for the data charts which give a great snapshot of the timeline and region. I will pass this on to my grad students working on the era. I wonder if there is some way to get a different view of the data on region? On the posted version, I can't tell the difference between the light blues. Elise Chenier, historian, Simon Fraser UniversityElise Chenierhttp://elisechenier.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-56778521976962760632009-03-06T10:06:00.000-06:002009-03-06T10:06:00.000-06:00Astonishing work indeed! Three cheers to you, Mag...Astonishing work indeed! Three cheers to you, Maggie!Aciliushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07785768453427754723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-27800253942050527562008-10-27T14:05:00.000-05:002008-10-27T14:05:00.000-05:00Amazing compilation Maggie. I remember so many of ...Amazing compilation Maggie. I remember so many of these publications so well. This list and the research behind it is a treasure, and I hope that someday you will be writing more articles about the different magazines and periodicals.<BR/><BR/>You forgot my first magazine, Cowrie, published from 1972-1974. Published randomly by Community Of Women, New York City. Editors Liza Cowan and Carol Hardin. Highlight - the series What The Well Dressed Dyke Will Wear, by me, Liza.Liza Cowanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07012197411969153523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-91357015577799486102008-10-26T21:27:00.000-05:002008-10-26T21:27:00.000-05:00Maggie,This is astonishing work.A treasure for our...Maggie,<BR/><BR/>This is astonishing work.<BR/><BR/>A treasure for our daughters for generations to come.<BR/><BR/>Thank you.<BR/>JesseJesse Wendelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10933455966309012824noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-72404360208912954292008-10-26T18:17:00.000-05:002008-10-26T18:17:00.000-05:00Wow. Wow wow.Thankyou so much for this compilation...Wow. Wow wow.<BR/>Thankyou so much for this compilation Maggie. I pored over it lovingly, even though I have many urgent things to do!<BR/>I will bookmark this (and return many times I'm sure). A fantastic resource, and a wakeup to my own acceptance of the myths.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-54729982245200365882008-10-26T17:05:00.000-05:002008-10-26T17:05:00.000-05:00Oops, I meant "I'd have guessed New York" instead ...Oops, I meant "I'd have guessed New York" instead of California. Probably because I lived in San Fran and that was default for me/us. New York was the exciting "other."Maggie Jochildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577090500862823864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-22080038756995741882008-10-26T17:02:00.000-05:002008-10-26T17:02:00.000-05:00Hey, Jen. Funnily enough. I thought of you every ...Hey, Jen. Funnily enough. I thought of you every time I ran across a publication from Cleveland (one from Shaker Heights, even). <BR/><BR/>Creating and posting this list took over 40 hours. It's GREAT to hear it already landed somewhere. <BR/><BR/>I began it because I was stuck in writing Ginny Bates. Myra's book(s) about the herstory of the Second Wave, including a fantasy volume on disk of every article in each of these publications available for first-hand reading (which a rich, dedicated dyke like Myra could assemble over enough time) -- these are now being published, at the time of the book. She's about to go on a book tour and encounter the internal community hostility that arises when shibboleths are disturbed. In other words, she's going to be attacked for printing what amounts to a disproving of the revisionist myth. <BR/><BR/>No matter that all she's really done is make available the primary source material so folks out there can decide for themselves.<BR/><BR/>In order to deal with what happens in the book, I needed to know where my own myth-making lay, where I was myself distorting or accepting distorted versions of what I lived through. Memory is not at all accurate, sometimes. After a week of being stalled, and depressed for other reasons, I woke up and began doing what I could as a crippled poor dyke with a 'puter. Find out as much as you can, and go from there.<BR/><BR/>It worked, of course. I was startled by the results. Like --the serious dominance of California in publications, I'd have guessed California. The relative small input from Oregon, which I remembered as much more influential, and perhaps it was on the West Coast. The relative scarcity of actual separatist publications, although the entire movement was separatist if you factor in the decision to name ourselves separate from male definition. The fact that lesbian rags were as high as a third -- I'd have guessed maybe a quarter. <BR/><BR/>I was right about 1975 and 1976 being watershed years, but surprised by how big a role 1971 played. However, if a publication has the word "woman" in it's title after 1973, it's probably inclusively feminist rather than lesbian-oriented. I also noticed that 1976-1977 marks a shift away from non-academic prioritization of writing (i.e., first-person, "working class" narratives are more valued before that) and a step toward academic theory. This is earlier than I noticed it in my own life, but that academication of the movement's rhetoric is the origin of the distortion about what was actually occurring. "Theory" doesn't ever match up with on-the-street activism and cluttered reality. And working class women didn't write the theory which now calls this a movement of white middle-class women.<BR/><BR/>Well, at any rate, the tide has turned again, I do believe. We won't see a return of 1968, of course. History doesn't actually repeat itself. But so many of these principles are essential to human liberation, they're coming back into currency. Especially as the economy and its addictive hold on the U.S. transforms. What people write and figure out will be new, but it will have a familiar feel to me, that zing of revelation and connection. Or, as we called it in feminist circles, an audible "click".Maggie Jochildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07577090500862823864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3576716365575919550.post-56019507345326684002008-10-26T16:37:00.000-05:002008-10-26T16:37:00.000-05:00Wow. Maggie, thank you for this. One homework as...Wow. Maggie, thank you for this. One homework assignment I'm giving myself as a result is to find and read issues of The American Negro Woman, which began March 1974 in Cleveland, Ohio, same as me. <BR/><BR/>Also, I have started reading Ginny Bates from the beginning. Another huge thank you for that work. I have more specific thank yous rising up out of reading that, and I'll try to get them into words for you soon... the least I could give you back.Jenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13173257593276401818noreply@blogger.com